How well do we really know the people who help us to train our dogs and to manage any behavioural issues that they may have?
Do they use Positive Dog Training methods as advocated by the likes of Victoria Stilwell?
Or are they stuck in the past with the Dominance methods employed by Cesar Millan?
Do they drink tea or coffee?!
And where does their greatest challenge lie? I suspect that this probably sums it up:
I can train any dog in 5 minutes. It’s training the owner that takes longer.
Barbara Woodhouse
With that in mind, I thought that it may be interesting to find out a little more about some dog trainers and behaviourists.
Welcome to ‘The Richie’s Room dog trainer interview‘.
Let’s kick off this first episode by finding out a little more about Theo Stewart by asking her a few questions – some of which I’m fairly sure won’t be shown on her website!
Introducing – Theo Stewart
Theo (affectionately known as ‘The Dog Lady‘ by many of her clients) is a behaviourist, consultant, therapist, trainer, and dog problem solver.
Her love of dogs started many years ago with two dogs called Merlin and Magic (a Rottweiler and German Shepherd Dog respectively). Training at this time was still, largely, the old-school dominance approach with ‘commands’ barked (sorry!) at the dog and physical ‘corrections’ given to force the dog to ‘obey’.
As Theo investigated the best approach towards teaching her own dogs she found that positive, force-free methods not only work best but they also ensure that we feel comfortable in our relationship with our dog.
As Theo gained further education and experience in these methods she began to share them with others through a new business. During this time she has seen thousands of dogs (and helped their grateful owners do what is best for them).
She has also shared her wisdom as a phone-in dog expert on BBC 3 Counties Radio (see photo above).
Getting to Know Theo
This series of questions is designed to tell us a little more about Theo other than her role with dogs.
I was Head of Music in a boys’ school – having previously obtained an LRAM (Licentiate of the Royal Academy of Music). I played piano and flute.
I also ran an introduction agency.
(Strictly, I have never been a dog trainer as such but a behaviour practitioner.)
[Richie : Sorry Theo, I can’t help it, whenever I think ‘piano’ I automatically think of the Eric Morecambe sketch with Andre Previn. “I’m playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order.” 🙂 ]I don’t usually have takeaway food.
Going out with my dogs.
Catching up with my family.
Cappuccino.
After making life easy for my family, I would buy land and set up a special dog rescue that
employs vets and experts.
I would also try to do something about how dogs are treated in certain other countries.
My fourth dog died at age 16 a few weeks ago – Pip, a Lurcher. I have an elderly German
Shepherd, 13-year-old Milly, then Pickle Cocker Spaniel of some notoriety who is 11, and a
Labrador Zara age 10.
I wish! Julie Walters.
Coronation Street but only if I’m playing Scrabble at the same time on my phone.
Oh – and Happy Valley.
I would first need to drop about 40 years from my age. No time for new skills not involving dogs – I would increase my dog skills.
Theo as a Dog Trainer
OK, this series of questions relates to Theo’s role with dogs.
I’m not a trainer as such – I am a behaviourist/behaviour specialist, which does involve some training – mostly clicker training in my case.
I had a Rottweiler and a German Shepherd years ago, both of which were a challenge. I was involved in old-school dominance type of training. Then I read The Dog Listener by Jan Fennell. Groundbreaking back then but out of touch now.
As force-free and positive as possible.
I don’t do ‘commands’ – but cues, and like to give the dog choices.
Wisdom is not a product of schooling but of the lifelong attempt to acquire it.
Albert Einstein
I began by becoming a Jan Fennell Dog Listener but within a year had moved on.
I then helped to found INTODogs. I am a trustee member.
The next big step was to graduate with the ISCP (International School for Canine Psychology).
Among other things, I am a Victoria Stilwell Positive Dog Trainer and a full member of IMDT (Institute of Modern Dog Trainers). Both these required jumping through hoops.
I belong to the PPG (Pet Professional Guild), PDTE (Pet Dog Trainers of Europe), C.A.B (Certified Animal Behaviourist) ICAN and C.C.B (Certified Canine Behaviourist) INTODogs.
Clicker training. Because it gives the dog choice and makes it quite clear to the dog what TO DO, not what NOT to do.
To cut out commands and encourage the dog to make its own choices (choices that are acceptable to me).
Patience.
Clicker training.
Yes, sometimes, because [as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic] my behaviour sessions are now all online.
When I started I worked my way up, seeing as many dogs as possible and attending every course I could find. There were far fewer people in the field.
Now it would be hard to get where I am without a university degree.
Meeting such a variety of wonderful people who love their dogs enough to employ me.
I’m not a dog trainer really. I’m quite anti ‘training’ in some ways. By definition it implies
the dog is asked to do something that doesn’t come naturally, for my sake.
To give their dog choice – and not to smother him or her!
Abandoning what ‘other people say’ with regards to using force, dominance and control.
I use human child parallels and have plenty of anecdotes!
Unfortunately at my age, my ambition is to keep going for as long as I can doing just what I am doing.
I am now specialising online which gives me access to the whole world! I will also be combining online with in-person when the pandemic finally allows.
This is my dream job which I started when most of my friends were thinking about retiring.
I wish I had started it years earlier – though probably the modern force-free methods we use today would not have existed.
Contacting Theo
So, if having read Theo’s answers you’d like to contact her, or follow her on social media, the details you need are as follows:
- Website : https://www.dogidog.co.uk/ (and also https://dogidogblog.wordpress.com/ )
- Email : theo@dogidog.co.uk
- Telephone : 07734 830424
- Twitter : @TheoDogLady
- Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/TheoDogLady/
- YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9LJnDyntTTgJF8dbGd7YnA
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This was such an interesting interview to read, it’s interesting that human child parallels are used when training a dog! x
Lucy | http://www.lucymary.co.uk
Thanks for your comment, Lucy. I’m glad that you found the interview interesting.
I had a dog growing up that really could have done with the help of a professional dog behaviour trainer. Our dog was all bark and no bite. She’d grab anything coming through the letter box and throw herself at the door should anyone be there. But once you opened the door she’d hide in the backroom. Such a nervous and scared dog.
Interesting interview, just one question really, what’s clicker training?
Hi and thanks for your comment. Clicker training makes use of a small device that makes a clicking sound – the trainer uses the sound to ‘mark’ a desired behaviour from the dog and then reward that behaviour. The dog recognises the clicker as an indication that the desired behaviour was performed at the time of the sound. Although used widely in dog training circles these days it was originally developed for use in training marine mammals.
Theo sounds like an amazing lady! I love that she uses human child parallels to add an extra depth to her anecdotes and that she appreciates and practices patience.
I have never heard of clicker training until now but I will be sure to look it up.
Thanks for sharing!
Hi Jaya. Thanks very much for your feedback. Clicker training is a very useful technique (originally used in training dolphins) used for ‘marking’ desired behaviours. I’ll probably write a post about it at some point in the future but for now, you can get a good overview here: https://positively.com/dog-training/methods-equipment/training-methods/clicker-training/
I love an interview style blog post and this sits really well within your niche!
Rosie
Thank you, Rosie. Glad that you enjoyed it.
I’m very lucky to call Theo a friend and mentor! Thoroughly enjoyed this blog and didn’t know that she was such a music talent! I do know that what she doesn’t know about dog behaviour could be written on a postage stamp. One amazing lady x
Hi Kay. Thank you very much for your feedback. She is, indeed, a lady of many talents.
This is a very interesting insight into a dog trainer- and a great one at that! Thank you for sharing 🙂
Yes, Theo is a very knowledgeable lady. Thanks for your comment, Eleanor.
This was a really great insight! I loved learning more about Theo, her love for dogs and career journey xx
I’m very pleased that you enjoyed the post, Della. Thanks for your comment.
What a lovely interview! If I had a dog, I’d deffo get a trainer! My friend has the most beautiful dog, he is so sweet, but one day he attacked a smaller dog. It was so out of character but she took him to dog trainer to prevent it happening again.
Thank you, Corinne. Yes, a good dog trainer/behaviourist is a huge asset for a dog owner to have.
Wow…..this is a cool interview. It’s nice to know about Theo. Theo sounds like an awesome person. Thank you for sharing.
Hi Fadima. Thank you, I’m glad that you enjoyed the interview – and that you correctly identified that Theo is awesome 🙂
They always say that animals are like small children and you need to encourage them to make their own choices rather than force them. Glad to see Theo subscribes to this school of thought – and thanks for the nostalgia trip with that mention of Barbara Woodhouse!
I completely agree, Lisa, allowing dogs to make their own choices is so valuable. Yes, who can forget Barbara “Walkies!” Woodhouse? 🙂
What a lovely insight into Theo and the work she does. I really wish our old dog got the chance to see a dog trainer before she passed as I feel she would have benefitted greatly from that when it comes to socialising with other dogs. Thanks for sharing another post that makes me want a dog even more!
Thank you, Jordanne. Theo is a lovely lady and very knowledgeable (and, apparently, very musical!). And anything that I can do that will hasten your acquisition of a dog has to be a good thing, doesn’t it? 😉
What a wonderful interview, Richie! Theo sounds like a wonderful trainer and dog lover, and once I will get myself a dog, I will definitely think about a trainer so I can make sure I learn as well!
Thanks very much, Simona. Theo is very good – if you fancy a Zoon call with her once you have your dog just get in touch with her.
What a great interview. These are some wonderful questions you have shared. Thank you for sharing.
Lauren
Hi Lauren. Thanks for reading and commenting.
This woman sounds wonderful! What a range of career choices too. Setting up a dog rescue would probably be something I’d want to do if I won a lot of money as well!
Thanks very much for your comment, Jenny. Yes, Theo is great – with those careers, in the highly unlikely event that she can’t resolve a dog behavioural issue she could play some calming music to the dog and sent the owners out on a date! Or perhaps play calming music to the owners and send the dog on a date 🙂 Well, if I win the £100m I’ll set up a dog rescue and pay you and Theo to run it! How does that sound?
Oooh what an amazing interview! Theo sounds like an incredible trainer!
Hi Amie. Thank you very much for your kind words.
Oh this is so fascinating, must admit I am not a dog person at all but I find the training that’s spoken about here quite fascinating!
Yeah, training has (fortunately) moved on a lot in recent years. Thanks very much for your comment, Alice.
Theo sounds wonderful! I love what she’d do if she’d won £100m. I’d like to think I’d do something similar tbh. Me and my husband are such big dog people. I wouldn’t say our dog is particularly well trained, she’s not the worst, but she’s also not the best but we went down the positive, force free method. I couldn’t imagine doing it any other way.
Claire.
http://www.clairemac.co.uk
Yeah, she really is. I suspect that there are a lot of dog lovers like us that we would choose the same route with the £100m – which is nice 🙂
What a great interview. She sounds like a lovely dog trainer! Thanks so much for sharing!
Hi Charity. Thanks for your kind words. And yes, Theo is lovely.
That was such an interesting read, she sounds like a lovely lady!
Thanks very much for your comment, Sarah. Yes, Theo is lovely.
I have just read these comments and my head is swelling a bit too much!
Thank you Richie and thank you everyone 🙂
Hi Theo. You are very welcome – and all comments are richly deserved 🙂